Mipcom 2025 preview; International Format Awards gold winner Phil Gurin; BBC Studios’ Sumi Connock; Waiting for the Out scribe Dennis Kelly

C21’s Clive Whittingham, Jordan Pinto and Karolina Kaminska look ahead to Mipcom and MipJunior 2025; outgoing Frapa chair Phil Gurin reflects on receiving the International Format Awards Gold Award and more; BBC Studios’ Sumi Connock embraces AI; and scribe Dennis Kelly on penning Waiting for the Out for Sister and the BBC.

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